[Kratos] Application naming

Farshid Mossaiby mossaiby en yahoo.com
Lun Abr 23 19:01:04 CEST 2012 

Sorry, forgot to reply to the list.

I took a look, but it is not enough. I need the best available timer in the system (like what we have in OpenCL application). What is the problem with OpenMP then? We need the wall time, anyway. We also have a timer.h, but it also does not have enough precision.


Best regards,
Farshid Mossaiby



________________________________
 From: Riccardo Rossi <rrossi en cimne.upc.edu>
To: Farshid Mossaiby <mossaiby en yahoo.com>; kratos en listas.cimne.upc.edu 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Kratos] Application naming
 

Hi Farshid,
      i put your answer in copy in the mailing list as you replied
    to me privately.

concerning the timing function, it is a little bit delicate since it
    should work together with OpenMP too, which makes it a little more
    difficult. 

if you look in openmp_utils.h there is a portable timing function
    which is designed to work with OpenMP compliant compilers ... i
    don't know if this would suit to your needs

concerning your second comment, i leave the word to Pooyan ...

ciao
Riccardo



On 04/23/2012 06:39 PM, Farshid Mossaiby wrote: 
Hi all,
>
>
>Thank you for your comments.
>
>
>
>Maybe I was not clear enough about application naming; I also support Riccardo's suggestion: MySuperbApplication while naming it internally (C++/Python stuff) and my_superb_application for the directory name. For now directory names would be enough. Would this be too hard to fix? 
>
>
>I am OK with Space over Tab, if everyone say that's better, AND if it is consistent in the repository.
>
>
>My other suggestions:
>
>
>1. A high resolution, cross-platform timer function (I can give you the code) somewhere in the Kratos tree.
>2. Windows compatibility (and other common things) header like "kratos.h" included in all applications, etc. as per comments from Juan.
>
>
>What do you think?
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Riccardo Rossi <rrossi en cimne.upc.edu>
>To: kratos en listas.cimne.upc.edu 
>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [Kratos] Application naming
> 
>Hi all,
>          sorry for the delay in the answering.
>
>first of all concerning the tabs or spaces, i propose the
>standard style to be the result of
>
>astyle --style=allman
>
>if we all agree on this i will apply recursively to all .cpp
            and .h 
>files in the repository and do a commit.
>this will automatically change tabs for spaces and it will
            do it 
>consistently through the repository.
>
>concerning the application naming i would prefer it to be of
            the type
>
>MyNewBelovedApplication
>
>instead of
>
>my_new_beloved_application
>
>this second one could be ok for the name of the directory,
            but not for 
>the python import.
>
>in any case i believe that at this stage we can not change
            the name of 
>existing applications since it
>would break EVERYTHING.
>We can think to use this rule for newly added applications
            as well as 
>for the "quality ones" but not to what is already done.
>
>about the comments in english i strongly agree...and i would
            say it is 
>already supposed to be a rule!!
>
>finally, Farshid if you sent other suggestions i missed
            them, could you 
>please post it again?
>
>Riccardo
>
>
>
>On 04/23/2012 01:07 PM, Janosch Stascheit wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I strongly support Pooyan's opinion. A common IDE would
            not help. And I
>> hate tabs ;-)
>>
>> Am Montag, den 23.04.2012, 13:05 +0200 schrieb Pooyan:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m completely against a common IDE because it’s a
            choice of taste and
>>> usually the single platform ones are much better.
            (for example in
>>> windows Visual Studio is much better than the
            others)
>>>
>>>/////
>>>
>>> About tab or space I prefer space because you write
            it once and it
>>> will be the same in all editors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bests,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pooyan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: kratos-bounces en listas.cimne.upc.edu
>>> [mailto:kratos-bounces en listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Farshid
>>> Mossaiby
>>> Sent: 23 April 2012 11:17
>>> To: janosch.stascheit en rub.de; Kratos mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [Kratos] Application naming
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Janosch,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your email.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we need to do the clean up, so Kratos seems
            a lot more
>>> professional and homogeneous.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> About point 3, AStyle can help, as we talked with
            Riccardo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're right, Tab size cannot be stored in the file
            (I mean as a
>>> readable one for every editor), but I think Tab is
            cleaner, takes less
>>> time to edit it, and quicker to navigate through.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> May I also recommend a common choice of IDE? I
            definitely like
>>> CodeBlocks, works great on Windows as well as Linux
            and Mac, very
>>> feature rich and actively developed. Available
            through Ubuntu archives
>>> (sudo apt-get install codeblocks). Riccardo will
            not like this ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Farshid Mossaiby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
            ______________________________________________________________________
>>> From: Janosch Stascheit<janosch.stascheit en rub.de>
>>> To: Farshid Mossaiby<mossaiby en yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: Kratos mailing list<kratos en listas.cimne.upc.edu>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Kratos] Application naming
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I would definitely support the idea of cleaning
            this up a bit.
>>>
>>> 1. everything lower case with underscore and a
            trailing _application
>>> (e.g. structural_application)
>>>
>>> 2. I strongly recommend "space" at a tab width of
            4. This is because
>>> the
>>> width of tab characters cannot be stored in the
            file and always
>>> depends
>>> on the editor settings
>>>
>>> 3. use of the following indentation:
>>> void Function( double&  param, int* param2 )
>>> {
>>>      //instructions;
>>> }
>>>
>>> 4. definitely yes!
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Janosch
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Samstag, den 21.04.2012, 13:35 -0700 schrieb
            Farshid Mossaiby:
>>>> Dear everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now that everything in Kratos is being updated
            and cleaned up, may I
>>>> suggest the following?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Renaming all of the applications to make
            them consistent, for
>>>> example all lower case name, adding or removing
            "application"
>>> suffix,
>>>> etc. This will make things look much better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. Agreeing on using "Tab" or "Space", and a
            "Tab size". I suggest
>>>> "Tab" and a "Tab size" of 4.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. Agreeing on a writing style. This is very
            helpful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. Comments only in english, so everyone can
            use them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A few much more specific comments that sent to
            Pooyan and Riccardo,
>>>> but no response ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any comments?
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